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Japan has a bunch of cultural phenomena that I am pretty miserable do not have counterparts in Australia. Surely any one of these would be immensely successful in Brisbane:
  • Onsen. My favourite part of my Japan trip was the ~48 hours spent moving from one enormous bath to another slightly different (temperature, minerals, setting) enormous bath, getting massages (or sitting in massage chairs watching movies/sleeping), drinking beer & eating food & watching performances & playing bishi bashi. There is a Korean bath house in the Gabba that Storm and I used to go to but it is a bit clinical and spartan and just has one warm bath and one cool.
  • Big giant multi-level internet cafes where you can browse or game or watch movies or read manga or sleep all night in the pods whilst doing all of the above and eating free ice cream.
  • Cat cafes. I would TOTALLY pay per fifteen minute allotments to cuddle and play with kittens.
In other news, Girl 1 moved into my apartment. Girl 3 decided to go to Paris instead, and lots of other people came through to look but I didn't particularly like any of them.

Currently I am reading (among other things) Pleasure by David J Linden. In it he mentions a study where obese and thin young women were put in a brain scanner while sipping chocolate milkshakes. They found that the obese women showed significantly less activation of pleasure centres in the brain ("blunted pleasure").. BUT when looking at the brain response when they were about to get the milkshake, the obese women showed greater activation. So they anticipated (craved) more reward but actually received less. Why is life so mean?

I have terrible vertigo today.. I was disturbed by it all last night whilst rolling about in my sleep. What does it mean? Pick one of a) inner ear infection or b) brain tumour. ...or c) Skyrim.

Date: 2012-03-27 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariecream.livejournal.com
If the obese women had an over-eating addiction wouldn't that explain it. Like people who drink or take drugs, after long overuse the act becomes less about getting to a higher, altered state and more to a levelled state.

Like, if you replace the obese women with an alcoholic and a casual drinker, the alcoholic would anticipate the drink more, but the casual drinker would probably get drunker off the same amount of alcohol.

Just a thought. I haven't read the book you're talking about though, but to me, seems like it would be the reason why.

Date: 2012-03-27 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] basement.livejournal.com
yes :) very perceptive of you. It's called tolerance and it happens with anything that repeatedly stimulates the release of dopamine.

Basically anything linked to dopamine (pleasure) can become addictive.. so whilst the book is called Pleasure it could just as easily be called Addiction. The study mentioned is being used all over the world as an argument for eating being addictive. It's interesting because it's something (fat) people have been saying for a while but (thin) people have been responding with "Shut the excuses you greedy fat weak willed fuck."

The description just struck me because I felt so sorry for all those fat girls who so look forward to their milkshake sips & can never find them as satisfying as some thin girl who doesn't even care :`(

Date: 2012-04-01 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiddity.livejournal.com
So if the anticipation and result are different and anticipation of greater reward results in blunted enjoyment of the actual pleasure of real rewards, this does indeed boil down to a problem in the limbic system.

Our real biological system of reward is just so much more painful and cruel than most people expected that those same people manage to ride a larger neurotransmitter high (like yummy dopamine milkshakes) by skewing their view on resultant rewards.

The addictive danger in doing this lies in our incredibly efficient way of delivering the same feeling of accomplishment at having something simply by anticipating having that same thing. So people who are dissatisfied with their weight because they consume too many dopamine milkshakes may attempt to escape their dissatisfaction by craving more milkshakes.

Vicious cycle. :( How to break it?

Date: 2012-03-27 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariecream.livejournal.com
Oh. I didn't know the book was about addiction. Score one me!

Though I suddenly feel like a milkshake real bad.

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